Not so Black and White
Honest Conversations about race and faith
Join two friends’ journey to move past the insult in a courageous, challenging, and hope-filled look at where we’ve been, how we think, what we can do to fight racism together with honesty, humility, and empathy.
You can authentically engage in the courageous work of ending racism in our own lives, our communities, and our systems, including the church.
Reggie Dabbs and John Driver--a Black man and a white man, and longtime friends--engage in a respectful, challenging exploration of racism in America, including how Black and white Christians can come together to fight the evil of racism within our hearts and our systems.
White privilege. Black Lives Matter. George Floyd. When it comes to racism in America, many of us feel confused, overwhelmed, angry--and eager to know how to engage in meaningful, action-oriented conversation about such a difficult topic.
In Not So Black and White, public school communicator and internationally acclaimed speaker Reggie Dabbs and pastor John Driver team up to offer a hope-filled, convicting, inspiring look at how to be anti-racist in America today.
Not So Black and white Will Help You Discover:
Globally acclaimed speaker Reggie Dabbs and pastor and author John Driver address our toughest questions and fears about racism head-on as they foster exactly the type of conversation we need to have in order to address the pain of racism in our country, our churches, and our hearts.
A compelling resource for pastors, teachers, and community leaders who want to read about issues of racism from a biblical and a historical perspective.
Who Not So Black and White is For:
For readers of all denominations and backgrounds, Not So Black and White equips us to engage together in the intentional work of dismantling racism, just as the gospel calls us to do.
For readers of all denominations and backgrounds, Not So Black and White equips us to engage together in the intentional work of dismantling racism, just as the gospel calls us to do.
About the Authors
Reggie Dabbs knows what it is to grow up Black in America, with the early challenges of foster care, adoption, bullying, and learning difficulties. He now travels the world speaking at schools and churches about God’s grace and care. His friend, John Driver, is a white pastor, former history teacher, and writer in Tennessee. In Not so Black and White, they engage in a loving, challenging, and vulnerable conversation and exploration of racism in America, including how Black and white Christians can become better equipped to come together to fight the sin of racism within the hearts of individuals and systems.
Reggie Dabbs
Reggie Dabbs has been one of the most sought-after public school and event speakers in the United States and around the world for more than two decades. From professional athletes and stay-at-home moms to high school students, Reggie shares his own astonishing story of tragedy, redemption, and hope with millions of people each year. An acclaimed saxophonist, Reggie lives with Michelle, his wife of thirty years, and their son Dominic.
John Driver
John Driver, M.S. is an award-winning writer and collaborator of more than twenty-five books. A former teacher with a history degree from the University of Tennessee, he lives near Nashville with his wife and daughter. He serves as the executive and teaching pastor at The Church at Pleasant Grove and hosts the weekly podcast Talk About That.
Endorsements & Reader Reviews
“This book is an answer to prayer. Reggie and John walk the tightrope between honesty and hope as well as I’ve seen in this conversation.”
—John Onwuchekwa, pastor, Cornerstone Church, Atlanta
“Reggie Dabbs and John Driver model what real dialogue can look like, pointing the way to a biblical, historical approach to difficult discussions marked by a commitment to mercy and justice at the same time.”
—Bill Haslam, former governor of Tennessee
“If you want to be a part of the right conversations and actions surrounding our nation’s complex history of slavery and racism, stop everything you’re doing and read this book.”
—Israel Houghton, Grammy Award–winning recording artist
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Not so Black and White
Honest Conversations about race and faith
Hear the stories of fellow believers who have found ways to reach across the racial barrier with humility, empathy, and forgiveness.
You can authentically engage in the courageous work of ending racism in your own life, community, and church.
Reggie Dabbs and John Driver--a Black man and a white man, and longtime friends--engage in a respectful, challenging exploration of racism in America, including how Black and white Christians can come together to fight the sin of racism within our hearts and our churches.
White privilege. Black Lives Matter. George Floyd. When it comes to racism in America, many of us feel confused, overwhelmed, angry--and eager to know how to engage in meaningful, action-oriented conversation about such a difficult topic.
In Not So Black and White, public school communicator and internationally acclaimed speaker Reggie Dabbs and pastor John Driver team up to offer a hope-filled, convicting, inspiring look at how to be anti-racist in America today.
Not So Black and White is for:
For readers of all denominations and backgrounds, Not So Black and White equips us to engage together in the intentional work of dismantling racism, just as the gospel calls us to do.
About the Authors
Reggie Dabbs knows what it is to grow up Black in America, with the early challenges of foster care, adoption, bullying, and learning difficulties. He now travels the world speaking at schools and churches about God’s grace and care. His friend, John Driver, is a white pastor, former history teacher, and writer in Tennessee. In Not so Black and White, they engage in a loving, challenging, and vulnerable conversation and exploration of racism in America, including how Black and white Christians can become better equipped to come together to fight the sin of racism within the hearts of individuals and systems.
Reggie Dabbs
Reggie Dabbs has been one of the most sought-after public school and event speakers in the United States and around the world for more than two decades. From professional athletes and stay-at-home moms to high school students, Reggie shares his own astonishing story of tragedy, redemption, and hope with millions of people each year. An acclaimed saxophonist, Reggie lives with Michelle, his wife of thirty years, and their son Dominic.
John Driver
John Driver, M.S. is an award-winning writer and collaborator of more than twenty-five books. A former teacher with a history degree from the University of Tennessee, he lives near Nashville with his wife and daughter. He serves as the executive and teaching pastor at The Church at Pleasant Grove and hosts the weekly podcast Talk About That.
Not so Black and white will help you:
Reader Reviews & Endorsements
“This book is an answer to prayer. Reggie and John walk the tightrope between honesty and hope as well as I’ve seen in this conversation.”
—John Onwuchekwa, pastor, Cornerstone Church, Atlanta
“If you want to be a part of the right conversations and actions surrounding our nation’s complex history of slavery and racism, stop everything you’re doing and read this book.”
—Israel Houghton, Grammy Award–winning recording artist
“Reggie Dabbs and John Driver model what real dialogue can look like, pointing the way to a biblical, historical approach to difficult discussions marked by a commitment to mercy and justice at the same time.”
—Bill Haslam, former governor of Tennessee
Reggie Dabbs and pastor John Driver team up to offer a hope-filled, convicting, inspiring look at how to be anti-racist in America today.